Skip This Entry: Yet More More on R.L. Hymers

by Little Miss Attila on May 14, 2009

I don’t want to write this entry, but I’ve made it a policy in the past to blog about the good doctor whenever he initiates contact with me. Since I just got an email from someone purporting to be conflicted about joining his “church,” I shall have to post this. [UPDATE: Sure enough: the letter was a fake; other people who had been in his church got similar notes around the same time. It really sucks to have to be suspicious of everyone who pops up in one's life like this.]

Please scroll around my main page: I got pop culture. I got politics. I got it all, here. Just not in this particular entry.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Truth Seeker wrote:

Hi Miss Attila,

I read about your blog entries about R.L. Hymers. I also read Doxa’s blog entries regarding him. Basically, both you and Doxa say that his church is a cult. I’ve been invited to come to his church before and it seems like a good church to me. Could you please provide some background info about R.L. Hymers if it is not too much trouble for you? Thanks in advance.

Truth Seeker

My response:

I suspect you could do better than Dr. Hymers’ church. I know that there are a lot of people out there who got saved in his churches, but it was very, very painful. And risky: some of his former followers left Christianity forever. And there are many survivors of the experience who wish they’d never ever met him. Good, Godly people.

I’m tempted to tell you that you might do okay in his church as long as you avoided extended contact with Dr. Hymers himself, but that’s not really the way his ego/management style works: he tends to corrupt those around him so that not only is he abusive, but those around him are encouraged to be that as well. I have tremendous respect for several men who were Elders in his church, and must now bear the burden–for the rest of their lives–of having acted as his henchmen. No one should have to carry that around with them.

It’s as difficult to explain how a seemingly Godly man can twist Scripture and church history to fulfill his own ego as it is to dissect the art of seduction: at what point is a girl (or a guy) being seduced?–is it too much eye contact? A touch that lingers too long? A kiss? There are so many subtle steps involved that one doesn’t really see it or admit it until it’s too late; it’s like totalitarianism: sure, the end result is clearly evil! But at what point did it become that? When, exactly, did the good intentions–or the supposed good intentions–turn awry?

By the time one realizes that “this is all wrong,” one has to deal not just with the spiritual ramifications of leaving, but also with the practical issue of how to conduct a physical escape from a man–and a team he has cultivated–who is not above physical violence, public humiliation, smear campaigns, or legal action against fellow Christians. (If indeed he is a Christian; it’s a subject of spirited debate. Like the debate on whether the word “cult” applies.)

Just remember that the Devil himself can quote Scripture when it suits his purpose. And quite well, too.

I’m not sure I have too much to add about Dr. Hymers, other than what I’ve already written. All you have to bear in mind is that there is tremendous trust that any member of Christ’s church gives to a minister of the Gospel. More trust than you give your doctor, even. So while you cannot find someone who is perfect (only one guy ever managed that on this earthly plane), you cannot grow spiritually when you know that your trust might be abused. Someone who doesn’t just lose his temper occasionally, but cultivates his temper as a tool of control–yelling at people from the pulpit, breaking things, knocking things over, dousing people in icy liquids at Elders meetings, publishing people’s real/perceived sins in Church bulletins–is not a person you can trust.

Please know, also, that even after you escape Hymers’ cult, there is a practical effect that you would have to live with for the rest of your life: you’d always be looking over your shoulder, wondering when and if the retribution is finally on its way. For instance, I’m halfway embarrassed to admit that I have to wonder if YOU are for real, or merely another of his minions, pumping me for information on who I am, or attempting to trip me into some sort of admission that can be used against me legally.

Please let me know if you need recommendations on a good, Bible-believing church near you; I’m sure I could find some referrals for you. But I can’t, in good conscience, recommend any church related to Hymers or his associates.

No.

–Joy

Joy W. McCann
Little Miss Attila

http://littlemissattila.com

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Oh, Goody. An Email from R.L. Hymers, Jr. | Little Miss Attila
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John May 14, 2009 at 3:56 pm

The only thing I have to add to this is that there is no substitute for personal acquaintance with the Scriptures. Truth Seeker, if you are reading this, get out your Bible and read it, daily, until you know it as well as the home in which you can walk around in the dark without banging your shin.

The reason for this is simple: If I, or anyone else, told you what God wants, how would you know that we were leading you towards God, and not a false God of our own misunderstanding? If you regard yourself as unqualified to properly interpret the Scriptures–and let me tell you, every false teacher on the planet would have you believe this of yourself–how then can you be qualified to discern between the man who interprets it rightly, and the man who twists it wrongly?

Although those outside of the spiritual path may doubt this, this is not the time to take a “leap of faith” (an idea not found in Scripture); instead, God wants you to know what you are doing, and the best way to know is to know His word.

The decisions you make along your spiritual path will conflict with what others wish you to do. The Bible has this to say: “We must obey God, rather than men.”

Don’t follow Hymers; he is not God. Don’t follow me; I am not God. Follow God.

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[name removed by blog administrator] June 6, 2009 at 10:08 pm

I went to this church [for seven years] till my parents got thrown out. I was raised in that chuch and i saw so many injustice. They married people that they considered a good match and no consideration of wat they thought. In other words they were brain washed. One example, he alwys said that the chuch was not paying the bill and the we needed to give more, he said that we needed to repair a AC that was broken and the whole time i was there we never got it fixed but if you see hes house has a mansion and its own farm. So let me think here for a sec huuuummmm were is the money going? Ill let you decide.

Its funny that every movement you made you had to ask permition to DR. hymers like buying a car,house and even who you want to get married to. My family got kicked out because we did not agree with hes comments and since [members of my family worked with] Hymers and his co-pastor called Dr. cagan. It came to a point when they did not trust my parents anymore and they asked my brother to spy on my parents, my dad got mad and told him off. I dont know wat he said but that sunday afternoon we got escorted out off the church with 3 people 3 that were so-called security guards but they did not have there guard card. We felt like criminals because we did not agreed with him. Furthermore he thinks he can tell you if you saved or not like if he can give you salvation. lol

Excuse Dr. hymers but the only one who can save you is Jesus Christ and once your saved not you or any one can take our salvation away.

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LP August 22, 2009 at 8:47 pm

After googling Robert Hymers and spending a couple of hours reading, I decided to weigh in here. My family attended Open Door Community Church from about March 1977 to maybe December 1977, when we were kicked out for being what Pastor Hymers loathingly called “a family.” I must say, I feel a little left out though. Other than a phone call from a member in 1980 to inform me that I was going to hell, I have had no other contact with anyone from there. I told her, “Thank you for calling, God bless you,” and that was the end of that. But obviously, if after more than 30 years, I feel the need to look him up, there was a lasting impact from my time there. It took 7 years to fully return to Christ after being “saved” at ODCC, but one thing I will always be grateful for was the emphasis Hymers put on reading the Word of God. As a new Christian, who had never had any experience with Christianity, I took it to heart. It was the Scriptures that showed me that his brand of “Christianity” was incomplete at best and led me back to Christ.

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