Cynthia! Sarah Is a . . . a Girrrrlllll!!!

July 5, 2009

It’s okay to be:

1) good-looking/charismatic;
2) female;
3) Republican/libertarian.

Pick two. Pick only two.

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31 Responses to “Cynthia! Sarah Is a . . . a Girrrrlllll!!!”

Darrell said:

July 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

This is for Cynthia, but I knew she would take a look here.
http://ktuu.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/Release_for_7-4-09-1.pdf
Cynthia Yockey, A Conservative Lesbian said:

July 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

Darrell,

Thank you. A commenter at my blog was spreading this rumor, so I’ll post this on Scridb and put it on my site.

Also — damn, Joy, you pounced on this one fast!

Cynthia
smitty said:

July 6th, 2009 at 3:21 am

I’m still flummoxed by Insty’s rumor of a non-Progressive political party in August.
T’would be the political equivalent of the Doolittle raid. And I will be right there, given the opportunity.
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 8:44 am

Don’t be so disingenuous. It’s okay to be any combination of those things, many women have made it far further than Sarah Palin with those characteristics and without the stratospheric assist of being selected out of nowhere to be a Vice Presidential candidate. The thing you can’t be is an insult to minimal human intelligence, which Sarah Palin was regardless of gender, slant, or appearance. It’s remarkable that you guys keep assuming the best about her after so many of her humiliating failures, but I understand it in the context of the general desperation of the conservative movement. The party is literally buckling under the weight of its own bullsh*t, and all you’ve got to hold on to is some delusion about how one of the great American imbeciles might turn out to be some sort of trailblazing super-genius.

The only question is how long you’ll continue to shoot yourselves in the foot. Please, do go on.
Little Miss Attila said:

July 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

“The thing you can’t be is an insult to minimal human intelligence, which Sarah Palin was regardless of gender, slant, or appearance . . .”

Oh, I don’t know: Ronald Reagan did pretty well that way. For that matter, so did George W. Bush, on the issue that matters most. Our “idiots” have done very well by us, and I expect Sarah will continue that tradition.

I especially like the “selected out of nowhere” bit; everyone who uses that is betraying his/her ignorance of energy policy and planning prior to the fall of 2008. Please; do go on.
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Well shoot, if you’d like to start admitting that the Republican Party is only capable of nominating idiots, don’t let me stand in your way. I’d like to hear more about how well you’ve been served ‘on the issues that matter most’ by George Bush, if you’ve got the time.

As for Sarah being an energy expert… huh? What’s she done to earn that cred but simply say she’s an energy expert? Seems like another geography-based qualification to me; ‘I’m an energy on expert because I just so happen to live in a state that exports lots of oil!’ What are her contributions? What are her ideas? Does anyone that lives in Alaska get to be an energy expert?
Ric Locke said:

July 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

Yeah, Levi. The problem is not that Sawah is Stoopid, which she manifestly is not (yeah? How many states have you been Governor of, schmott guy?).

The problem is that she’s pretty damn bright — and that knocks into a cocked hat your cocksure assurance that anybody with intelligence will blow off half a million for an Ivy League attendance chit, prove it by moving into a 600 sq. ft. apartment in the middle of a human antheap, then foreswear having children (especially if you can find an excuse in some developmental disability), make or buy a papier-maché Bush puppet, and spend the weekends Marching for Social Justice. Save Tibet! Free the Whales! Disciples of Ché Against Torture!

Regards,
Ric
Little Miss Attila said:

July 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

“As for Sarah being an energy expert… huh? What’s she done to earn that cred but simply say she’s an energy expert? Seems like another geography-based qualification to me; ‘I’m an energy on expert because I just so happen to live in a state that exports lots of oil!’ What are her contributions?”

No radio reception or internet connection in that cave you dwell in, huh? Too bad, Levi. The world is passing you by.

And, Ric: I still harbor hopes that Tibet will be free one day–just not in this generation. Someday, it will be possible to do it without a bloodbath. Until then, I don’t mind being reminded that it is an ongoing outrage, because I DON’T want the world to forget.
John said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Every time I hear someone criticize the intellect of Reagan, Bush, or any other conservative, I wonder if the critic is even as smart as the person they’re lambasting. During the Bush years, it was often the case that Bush was smarter than his critic.

Being PotUS is not rocket science, and should not be; I don’t want the President to be so powerful that it takes Mensa-level intellect to do the job properly. The mistakes made by our presidents have been primarily failures of courage and failures of conviction, and not failures of intellect.

The left calls Bush, Reagan, or Palin “insult[s] to minimum human intelligence” because they are not leftists. The left’s pride has convinced it that it is Gaia’s gift to the human race and is incapable of error on its major tenets. In point of fact, the main incapabilities of the left are its persistent failure to learn from history that its programme is inherently flawed, and its self-imposed inability to recognize that there are good reason to reject liberalism.
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

“No radio reception or internet connection in that cave you dwell in, huh? Too bad, Levi. The world is passing you by.”

You’ll have to excuse me. The way you brought up her expertise on energy policy back there gave me the impression that you might actually want to talk about that a bit, especially with that condescending little ‘Please; do go on.’ Guess I misinterpreted that as an indication that you’d back up some of your trash talk. Silly me.

Speaking of trash talk, you need practice. Accusing someone that’s been posting on your internet website all day of not having an internet connection is a little sloppy, don’t you think?
John said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Just read Cynthia’s post, and the longer post to which it was linked.

Like all hate of this magnitude, the hatred for Sarah Palin is really fear. All of the lies serve the purpose of distracting the hater from this fact, to provide comfort via the belief that the fear is Palin’s fault, and not the fault of the hater.

Why are (for instance) so many feminists afraid of Sarah Palin? I’d have to say that in some way she endangers the agenda, either the specific agenda of feminists, or the more general agenda of the Democratic party.
Little Miss Attila said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

It’s like attempting repartee with a brick wall! Levi:

She coordinated a natural-gas pipeline deal that involved CA, WA, OR, Canadian authorities, and the natural-gas industry. She’s been a forceful advocate of increased production of oil in the West–and particularly in her own state. She’s assisted in raising the revenues that Alaskans receive from their fossil-fuel resources.

“Please; do go on” was a sardonic quotation of your earlier comment, though I couldn’t help but fix your punctuation.

The suggestion that you don’t have an internet connection is a phenomenon is a literary device called “irony.”
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

“Being PotUS is not rocket science, and should not be; I don’t want the President to be so powerful that it takes Mensa-level intellect to do the job properly. The mistakes made by our presidents have been primarily failures of courage and failures of conviction, and not failures of intellect.”

Would you characterize the Iraq War as such? Because the failures in Iraq seem to come from intellectual failures in planning, forethought, honesty, diligence, and effort. Or are you one of these that considers the Iraq War to be a success?
Ric Locke said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Well, I dunno, Levi. Given that you appear not to be aware of some of the more prominent features of Ms. Palin’s career — browbeating the oil companies into paying royalties, negotiating with the Canadians for pipeline right-of-way and financing, serving on the Natural Resources Commission (charged with regulating the awl bidness), forcing resignations and/or jail terms for corrupt practices — your access to the Internet would seem to be at least somewhat limited. Perhaps your subscription only covers Kos and Huffy?

I don’t see that Joy (or her commenters) are obliged to bring you up to speed.

The only thing you manage to accomplish is to portray yourself as an elitist thug whose definition of “intelligent” is “just like meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!” and whose aim, since the Congress is forbidden by the Constitution to issue patents of Nobility, is to award that power to the faculty at Yale and Hahvahd (why do the Kennedys say “Ameriker” and “Afriker”? — because they have to use up the “r”s left over from “Hahvahd”.)

Joy, I don’t have any problems with people who would prefer a free Tibet; I would, myself. But plastering the Volvo with bumper stickers whilst absolutely forbidding, totally ruling out, anything that might actually accomplish that deserves only derision.

Regards,
Ric
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

“She coordinated a natural-gas pipeline deal that involved CA, WA, OR, Canadian authorities, and the natural-gas industry.”

Big deal. She’s one of hundreds of people across the country to be involved in negotiations to build a pipeline. She spearheaded this move, huh? She had to twist a lot of arms? Her involvement was fundamental? She deserves all the credit? Even if the answers to all those questions was yes, how does that make her an energy policy expert?

“She’s been a forceful advocate of increased production of oil in the West–and particularly in her own state.”

Increased oil production in the west is not a solution to the country’s energy problems. A band-aid on a heart attack. If anything, her insistence to ‘Drill, baby, drill!’ proves her to be anything but an energy policy expert.

“She’s assisted in raising the revenues that Alaskans receive from their fossil-fuel resources.”

This is a unique characteristic of Alaska that Palin is neither responsible for nor able to provide to the rest of the country.

Looks like three strikes to me. Anything else?
Ric Locke said:

July 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Levi, given that your talking points are based on the position that “expert” means “agrees that Americans can’t have energy”, under that definition Sarah Palin doesn’t count as an “expert”. There are those who don’t agree with that definition, and for us, she has a great deal of expertise.

Regards,
Ric
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

Levi, given that your talking points are based on the position that “expert” means “agrees that Americans can’t have energy”, under that definition Sarah Palin doesn’t count as an “expert”. There are those who don’t agree with that definition, and for us, she has a great deal of expertise.

My talking points? I’m not the one arguing by numbers here. I didn’t say that Americans can’t have energy, did I? If you want to confer the title of ‘energy expert’ upon this woman because she oversaw some administrative tasks that just happened to involve energy in an energy-rich state, can I be a ‘crime expert’ because I saw Public Enemies yesterday?
Ric Locke said:

July 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

Increased oil production in the west is not a solution to the country’s energy problems. A band-aid on a heart attack.

If you can say that with a straight face, your “expertise” in anything is in question.

No, drilling isn’t the only or exclusive solution. A comprehensive solution includes nuclear, “renewables”, and, yes, drilling. Energy is largely fungible; oil is almost entirely so, with the caveat that some refineries can’t use some types of oil. Any development of energy sources, wherever in the world it is, means that those developing it don’t need to draw as much on the rest of the world, which means lower prices and greater availability for everybody.

By virtue of her career, Sarah Palin has demonstrated a great deal of knowledge of that segment of energy policy that relates to the oil business — which is the second largest contributor (after coal), and the largest contributor for transportation-related industry. If you can’t or won’t recognize that, your “contributions” to the debate are nothing but elitist sneers.

Regards,
Ric
Levi said:

July 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

By virtue of her career, Sarah Palin has demonstrated a great deal of knowledge of that segment of energy policy that relates to the oil business — which is the second largest contributor (after coal), and the largest contributor for transportation-related industry. If you can’t or won’t recognize that, your “contributions” to the debate are nothing but elitist sneers.

Of course, I can’t deny that she has worked closely with the oil industry, but that hardly warrants calling her an energy expert and insisting that she’d be some tremendous asset in administering sensible national energy policy. The two most recent Republican presidents were more closely connected to the oil industry than Palin is, and the energy problems of the country only intensified during their terms.

An ‘energy policy expert,’ in my view, is someone that has experience or training in a field like economics or engineering that demonstrates a broader understanding of the issues and a more sober assessment of what needs to be done beyond chanting ‘Drill Baby, Drill!’ If that makes me an elitist, I’ll take it.
John said:

July 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

Levi:

One of these days you will have to learn to read. I said that the failures of our presidents have been primarily failures of courage and conviction, and not failures of intellect. The words I wrote do not mean what you interpreted them to mean.

And the war in Iraq has not been the utterly catastrophic blunder that liberals have painted it as being. It has been far and away less costly than the war in Vietnam or the War on Poverty. We went in to remove Saddam. He’s gone. That constitutes success. The aftermath was not anticipated, true. The effort has cost more than expected, also true. But the same can be proven true for everything liberals stand for.
Darrell said:

July 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

But we can all agree, can’t we, that Governor Sarah Palin is way smarter than Levi based on her lifetime of accomplishments. And if Levi voted for Mr. Obama and does not regret it to the very core of his being, there is nothing further to talk about, is there? Unless he is able to post a marathon time, and give us details of his
hunting, fishing, and trapping prowess. And even if he did, I would submit that by any measure, Sarah Palin is superior to Levi.
Levi said:

July 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

“But we can all agree, can’t we, that Governor Sarah Palin is way smarter than Levi based on her lifetime of accomplishments. And if Levi voted for Mr. Obama and does not regret it to the very core of his being, there is nothing further to talk about, is there? Unless he is able to post a marathon time, and give us details of his
hunting, fishing, and trapping prowess. And even if he did, I would submit that by any measure, Sarah Palin is superior to Levi.”

I voted for Obama, and I do regret it, although I don’t know if I regret it to the very core of my being. My choices last November were to sit at home or vote for someone whom I was fairly certain would disappoint me, and I guess I felt optimistic that morning. I certainly wasn’t going to vote for a Republican, but after 6 months of Democratic control of government, I’m fairly certain I won’t be voting for them anymore, either. Don’t be mistaken though; I’m not disappointed in Obama for any of the reasons that you drama queens have been having fits about. God help you people if we ever get a real liberal into office in this country.

And Sarah Palin might have me beat on your list of her favorite recreational activities, but I know for a fact that I wouldn’t catastrophically self-destruct on national television if Katie Couric interviewed me.
Little Miss Attila said:

July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

Small correction: I do not believe Gov. Palin is involved in trapping.

I could totally see myself getting tongue-tied on national TV, but then I get tongue-tied while ordering pizza at the local take-out Italian joint.

“My choices last November were to sit at home or vote for someone whom I was fairly certain would disappoint me . . . .” Yeah. Tell me about it.

What gets me about Obama is we aren’t even receiving the benefits we were supposed to get from a left-leaning liberal: respect for California’s medical marijuana system, free of Federal raids? No. A gay alternative to marriage, with Federal benefits? No. Repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act? No. Some kind of compromise that would tighten border security while bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows? No. More transparency in government? No. Increased civil liberties? No. The no-brainer repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”? No.

All the drawbacks; none of the benefits.
Darrell said:

July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

Levi’s trapping skills were being evaluated. One last chance before that long walk onto the tundra.

Remember Obama’s brain fart giving that speech where he went on “Uh., uh, ..umming”for minutes on end, pretending that the crowd was so loud he couldn’t hear himself think (as the room got quieter and quieter)? How come that doesn’t reflect at all on Obama? How come that never factors into the decision?

Levi, ever represent someone as a spokesperson? Yeah, an official one. One where your positions, knowledge and beliefs don’t matter–even when you know better. That is the position Sarah Palin found herself in running as VP.That is the first time she had been in a position where she had to represent someone else and accurately convey what that person wanted to be said–and defend it. I’ve done it. It takes a long while to get used to doing it. It is even harder when the guy on the top of the ticket want to push the same global warming bullshit as the opposition, and is more interested in appeasing the other side than striking out in his own direction and his own principles–letting the voters know there is a difference.
Levi said:

July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

“What gets me about Obama is we aren’t even receiving the benefits we were supposed to get from a left-leaning liberal: respect for California’s medical marijuana system, free of Federal raids? No. A gay alternative to marriage, with Federal benefits? No. Repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act? No. Some kind of compromise that would tighten border security while bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows? No. More transparency in government? No. Increased civil liberties? No. The no-brainer repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”? No.

All the drawbacks; none of the benefits.”

Well what do you know? Something we can (mostly) agree on. It’s because Obama isn’t really a left-leaning liberal.

The election-winning calculus for the current Democratic leadership is to completely take for granted the liberal parts of the electorate and focus exclusively on winning over moderates and conservatives. It’s a winning strategy, at least in the short term. Anger at Bush and the Republicans brought liberals out for Obama last Nov., but that’s not going to happen again if he can’t even be bothered to make moves on some things, like any of that easy, obvious stuff you listed.

I’m willing to be patient, but if this pace continues with a 60 seat majority in the Senate, I’d be glad to see him lose in 2012. If we’re going to ruin this country, might as well put the best ruiners in the driver’s seat, amirite?
Levi said:

July 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

“Remember Obama’s brain fart giving that speech where he went on “Uh., uh, ..umming”for minutes on end, pretending that the crowd was so loud he couldn’t hear himself think (as the room got quieter and quieter)? How come that doesn’t reflect at all on Obama? How come that never factors into the decision?”

You know what the difference is? Volume. People are going to slip up when speaking in public, that goes without saying. But when people only slip up when speaking in public? That’s when you’ve got a bona fide idiot on your hands. There have been press conferences given by former President Bush and interviews conducted with Sarah Palin where not a single sentence makes any sense. I’ve never seen Barack Obama shank it for an entire hour, have you?

I disagree with people like Newt Gingrich and Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney just as much as I disagree with Palin and Bush on the issues, but I know those guys aren’t morons. Palin and Bush are morons, and they’re morons on an unprecedented scale in American politics. Insisting that Obama is worse… I mean, that’s not even worth addressing, really.
Little Miss Attila said:

July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

There have been press conferences given by former President Bush and interviews conducted with Sarah Palin where not a single sentence makes any sense. I’ve never seen Barack Obama shank it for an entire hour, have you?

It’s all in the editing.

I disagree with people like Newt Gingrich and Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney just as much as I disagree with Palin and Bush on the issues, but I know those guys aren’t morons. Palin and Bush are morons, and they’re morons on an unprecedented scale in American politics. Insisting that Obama is worse… I mean, that’s not even worth addressing, really.

Huckabee? You’re kidding, right?
Levi said:

July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 am

“It’s all in the editing.”

Not really. Head over to YouTube and watch Bush’s last press conference. That’s raw, uncut footage, and it might be the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen. You’d think he would have improved after 8 years, but… um, he didn’t.

Care for a link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZkKTTZuxO8

As for Palin? Come on. I know you don’t believe she looked so bad in all of her interviews solely because of editing. She blew it over and over again, in interview after interview, at a variety of venues. If they can turn anyone into an idiot with editing, why isn’t it done more? Is this where that mainstream liberal media bias factors into the conservative mythology?

“Huckabee? You’re kidding, right?”

Hey, I don’t like the guy or his politics even a little bit, but I can at least recognize that he can give a speech and make it through an interview without humiliating himself.
Little Miss Attila said:

July 8th, 2009 at 6:01 am

If that is the case, then you probably regard Ronald Reagan as highly intelligent, because no one has ever disputed his having a marvelous facility with the English language, and a tremendous sense of timing / ability to deliver.
Levi said:

July 8th, 2009 at 10:05 am

“If that is the case, then you probably regard Ronald Reagan as highly intelligent, because no one has ever disputed his having a marvelous facility with the English language, and a tremendous sense of timing / ability to deliver.”

Quite clearly, Reagan was more intelligent than Bush or Palin, that much is obvious from comparing their public speaking skills. But remember, this is all relative; my stating that Reagan or Huckabee is smarter than these two yokels is hardly an admission that I consider them to be highly intelligent in a broader context. Obviously, I think modern conservatism is a deeply flawed ideology that has and continues to fail to the United States, and I question the judgment and intelligence of anyone that adheres to its amorphous and hysterical tenets, especially when two of its most popular recent boosters are as plainly stupid as Bush and Palin.
Darrell said:

July 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

Quite clearly you don’t know what you are talking about, Levi. Why don’t you show the data correlating intelligence with public speaking skills? I won’t be holding my breath. Then detail all the failures of “modern conservatism”. For extra credit, you can try to prove your case that Governor Bush was a conservative. Good luck!

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