On Blood Libel in Politics

by Little Miss Attila on January 10, 2011

Glenn Reynolds on those who would misuse the Tucson tragedy for political gain:

I understand the desperation that Democrats must feel after taking a historic beating in the midterm elections and seeing the popularity of ObamaCare plummet while voters flee the party in droves. But those who purport to care about the health of our political community demonstrate precious little actual concern for America’s political well-being when they seize on any pretext, however flimsy, to call their political opponents accomplices to murder.

Where is the decency in that?

UPDATE, 1/12:

Neo-neocon defends Mrs. Palin against the accusation that she doesn’t understand what “blood libel” is, or is somehow using it in bad faith.

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ponce January 10, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Um, I think Instacracker should look up the definition of “blood libel” before he, um…never mind.

Never interrupt a wingnut when they’re playing the victim card.

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John January 13, 2011 at 5:28 am

ponce,

I can see that you are willing to say anything, no matter how patently untrue, in order to score a political point.

A “blood libel” is precisely what Instapundit and Sarah Palin stated it to be: A false accusation of murder.

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ponce January 13, 2011 at 8:44 am

John,

Might I point out that this warning came a full day before Sarah Palin picked up Instacracker’s streaming pile of antisemitism and beclowned herself before the nation.

Quite a contrast yesterday: Sarah Palin’s mean-spirited, petty and self-centered foray into spewing an ancient hatred and President Obama’s wonderful, heartwarming, uniting speech.

I think the 2012 election was decided yesterday.

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SDN January 10, 2011 at 6:33 pm

And I think you should stop being a mendoucheous liar. But it’s an imperfect universe, and we never get exactly what we want. So get used to it.

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ponce January 10, 2011 at 8:30 pm

“Imperfect” is a rather accurate description of both Instracracker and his nonsensical ravings, SDN.

For once, we can agree on something.

I think he dipped into pig ignorance this time though.

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Darrell January 10, 2011 at 10:48 pm

So language doesn’t evolve now, ponce? What does that do to your argument regarding the US Constitution?
One mouth, two sides.

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ponce January 10, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Instacracker trying to using language is like an ape trying to use an iPad.

Best he sticks to his primitive grunts before he drifts further in his anti-Semitic speech “inventions.”

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Darrell January 11, 2011 at 1:05 am

Using a term that Jews use is anti-Semitic?
I didn’t know that.
You must be more sensitive since the modern Left is so well known for supporting Jewish concerns, preferentially.
Like that regular HuffPo commenter, Westthea (T West) starting that rumor about Israeli aid workers in Haiti stealing organs.
I’m sure HuffPo would ban the chap/chapette if they ever heard about it.
Now, how did the world press, including Israeli sources refer to that? Why, yes. Blood libel. Quite different than the historical use, wouldn’t you say?
But accurate. Libel that incites violence against an innocent party. Fits, doesn’t it? So would libel that accuses an innocent party of violence. Hmm. Words meaning something. What a novel idea!
Now excuse me while I go back to the Lefty sites to read about the Jews being behind 9/11.

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Dr. K January 11, 2011 at 7:15 am

You want to bring back civility in discourse?

Bring back dueling. Seriously.

If you had a decent chance of being killed for a libelous statement, I’d bet you’d watch your mouth.

Especially since those on the left hate the thought of guns so much./

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Darrell January 11, 2011 at 7:20 am

The hate the idea of *you* having a gun.
It’s OK for Rosie or her bodyguards to have several.

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ponce January 11, 2011 at 4:13 pm

“Using a term that Jews use is anti-Semitic?
I didn’t know that.”

What Instacracker spewed is similar to saying the paper cut you just got is worse than the Holocaust. Of course it’s anti-Semitic.

I think Roy Edroso summed up the ridiculous braying of wingnut bloggers over the past couple days in his last post title:

“Rightbloggers Comfort the Real Victims of the Gabrielle Giffords Shooting: Themselves”

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Texan99 January 11, 2011 at 4:22 pm

The father of the nine-year-old girl who was killed said the shooting was part of the price of a free society. That’s true not only in the sense that we have a society in which the government isn’t permitted to disarm the citizenry. It also true in the sense that we don’t lock up crazy people even when we have pretty good reason to worry that someday they’re going to kill someone. The fact is that most psychotics don’t get violent, and we don’t have a good track record for predicting the ones that will.

In this case, it does look as though it would have been a good idea for one of the many law-enforcement agencies that tangled with this guy to have taken an extra step or two, if only to disqualify him from buying a gun. But although this looks like it should have been a clear case, in general we have to be careful about laws that restrict gun ownership to people the government considers “stable.” Under that standard, would Al Gore be permitted to own a gun? How about George Washington? People who want to kill in large numbers will find a way to do it, if not with a gun then with a bomb, which smart crazy people are more than able to construct, and no law will stop them.

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Darrell January 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Shit-Eating Left Caught With Shit Hanging From Mouth, Say Getting Rid Of Limbaugh, Fox–Total Control Of Internet, Total Ban Of Guns–Only Hope.

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ponce January 11, 2011 at 9:05 pm

Purrell,

It is my fervent wish that one day your therapy takes hold and your posts become intelligible.

Let’s pray on it together.

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Darrell January 11, 2011 at 9:42 pm

You’ve just completed the cycle
for your beclownment today. Cingrats.

Now pick up around the basement so your mom won’t have to again. Especially those crusty Kleenexes. . .

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ponce January 12, 2011 at 10:44 am

Oh dear,

Sarah the Moron decided to reuse Instacracker’s idiotic anti-Semitic screed and run with it.

“Instead of dialing down the rhetoric at this difficult moment, Sarah Palin chose to accuse others trying to sort out the meaning of this tragedy of somehow engaging in a “blood libel” against her and others. This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries—and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today.

Perhaps Sarah Palin honestly does not know what a blood libel is, or does not know of their horrific history; that is perhaps the most charitable explanation we can arrive at in explaining her rhetoric today.”

http://www.njdc.org/media/entry/palinrelease011210

There goes the 10% of Jewish Americans who vote republican…

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Dave J January 14, 2011 at 9:23 pm

Ponce,
I love it when liberals engage in their game of name-calling and intellectual snobishness, and then prove their own ignorance. “Their repeated fictions of blood libels”? The fiction and lies were the blood libel. “Blood libel” denotes the fact-truth- that a false accusation has been made.
Your English, and your inability to say anything without attacking someone, suggests that you are a recent product of our feel good, truth is what you feel educational system.

People, I am only an occasional visitor to this site, but is Ponce’s amusement value really worth all the drivel he publishes here?

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playteaux January 12, 2011 at 11:26 am

10%, now that is generous. I never understood why so many Jewish Americans vote Democrat anyway… Everyone knows that Republicans are more pro-Israel than Dems. Look at all the great stuff Obama did for Israel. (I hope you can hear the sarcasm)

Everyone knows that Palin’s statement was not Anti-Semetic in nature. Ill used, yes, hatred, no. Everyone wants to jump on the “I hate Palin” bandwagon. Look at all the press she got. If she is as dumb as people claim, then how does she get so much press? If no on wrote a story about Palin’s video and people started to ignore her then she would not be as popular with the gun toters.

I am not saying she is great nor am I saying she is terrible person. I hope Republicans find a better candidate in 2012 to run for POTUS. I am saying that some may be reading too much into the statement. If I were Jewish, I would love for “blood libel” to be redefined so go for it mainstream media!

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ponce January 12, 2011 at 1:08 pm

“Everyone knows that Republicans are more pro-Israel than Dems.”

Jewish Americans are…American.

They care about America.

Weird that that needs pointing out.

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Darrell January 12, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Yeah. Some “care” so much that they have been walking around with signs that say “Death To America!” for forty years now. When their arms get tired, they run for political office as Democrats.

People can read this thread and see just how disingenuous you are, ponce. You know that Sarah wasn’t the first.
When Sarah says “blood libel” you hear””Blood Libel.” Or pretend that you do. With so many voices in your head, I can understand the source of confusion.
As discussed, one of the most recent incidents of Blood Libel–designated that way by the World Press–was sourced at HuffingtonPost and involved an outright lie about Israeli relief workers in Haiti
harvesting organs involuntarily from victims. Keep playing your lying games.

The fact of the matter is that the words “blood libel” have been used to describe any libel that incites violence against an innocent party or any libel that accuses an innocent party of deadly violence.
Spot on, isn’t it? Now keep spinning until your wheels reach China.

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ponce January 12, 2011 at 6:28 pm

Darrel,

I was kind enough to point out that Instacracker’s post was anti-Semitic yesterday.

If only Sarah the Ditz had read LMA before she stole Instacracker’s racist diatribe she could have been spared so much shame and embarrassment…so much.

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Darrell January 13, 2011 at 12:02 am

Don’t worry, ponce. We already have a Democrat using it to describe Republicans saying that Al Gore doesn’t want to count the military vote in the 2000 election/recount in Florida.
Give it a few days and we’ll find another 100 examples of Democrats using blood libel without a peep from you professional faux outrage types. Or their lyin’ media echo chamber pots.
If “Virgin Mary” can make the Fudruckers drink list, everything is fair game.

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ponce January 13, 2011 at 12:38 am

Aaaah,

The naive fringe right belief that the “he did it too” defense actually works in American politics.

All of America has spent the day debating whether Sarah Palin is an anti-Semite or just and idiot while hundreds wingnuts have been frantically using Google to find a Dem saying the same thing.

It’s almost tragic.

Let us all pray for a Sarah Palin nomination for 2012…

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Darrell January 13, 2011 at 6:25 am

The lying Left based their use of “teabagger” on the self-identification of one commenter at the Free Republic. And probably a Moby at that.
“He used it, now so can we.”
The nutroot gold standard.
Go sell your shit to the morons at Kos or HuffPo, poncehead.
Now shut your fucking mouth like the President asked you to do.

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